Led Zeppelin Frequently Asked Questions


Contents of this page:

1 - Common abbreviations found in this file and on Digital Graffiti.
2 - Administrivia.
3 - About Digital Graffiti.
4 - What should I post to the list?
5 - Who was in Led Zeppelin?
6 - How and when did John Bonham die?
7 - When and where was Led Zeppelin formed?
8 - What albums has Led Zeppelin released?
9 - What videos has Led Zeppelin released?
10 - Should I buy the boxed sets? Which one(s) should I buy?
11 - Will The Song Remains The Same be remastered?
12 - So what is the fourth album called, anyway?
13 - What's the deal with those four symbols?
14 - What's that thing on the Presence cover?
15 - What's up with the album covers for In Through The Out Door?
16 - What's up with (song title) (and who's Roy Harper)?
17 - Are there a lot of references to J.R.R. Tolkien's work in Led Zeppelin songs?
18 - Didn't Led Zeppelin copy (song title) from (blues artist)?
19 - What's Led Zeppelin's best song/album?
20 - Is there any more unreleased material?
21 - How does the band feel about bootlegs?
22 - Where do I get bootlegs?
23 - Which bootlegs should I start with?
24 - Are there any books on Led Zeppelin?
25 - Are there any music books featuring Led Zeppelin?
26 - Are there any magazines/fanzines about Led Zeppelin?
27 - Are there any Led Zeppelin fan clubs?
28 - Where do I get Led Zeppelin collectibles (other than bootlegs)?
29 - Where can I get online lyrics, tabulature, GIFs, etc.?
30 - What did the members of Led Zeppelin do after the band broke up?
31 - Is Led Zeppelin getting back together?
32 - What albums has Jimmy Page released?
33 - Coverdale/Page tour dates.
34 - What albums has Robert Plant released?
35 - Robert Plant tour dates.
36 - What albums has John Paul Jones released?
37 - Who were the other artists on the Swan Song label?
38 - What is The Song Retains The Name?
39 - Who is Dread Zeppelin and how does the band feel about them?
40 - Did Jimmy Page invent bowing (the guitar)?
41 - What's this "theramin" thing that Jimmy Page uses?
42 - Is Jimmy Page a Satanist?
43 - Are there backwards messages in "Stairway To Heaven"?

1 - Common abbreviations found in this file and on Digital Graffiti.

BCOH = Baby Come On Home
FAQL = Frequently Asked Questions List
HHWCID = Hey Hey What Can I Do
HOTG = Hammer Of The Gods
HOTH = Houses Of The Holy
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
IMTOD = In My Time Of Dying
ITTOD = In Through The Out Door
JPJ = John Paul Jones
LZ = Led Zeppelin
OTHAFA = Over The Hills And Far Away
STH = Stairway To Heaven
TSRTS = The Song Remains The Same

2 - Administrivia.

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3 - About Digital Graffiti.

Digital Graffiti, the Led Zeppelin mailing list, was created by
Matt Hill at Cornell University on 10 November 1992. Membership
currently stands at over 300 worldwide.

The first known Led Zeppelin list was started by Mike Powers at
Rutgers University in August 1989. That list was transferred to
the University of Minnesota (Twin Cities campus) under the care
of Eric Hendrickson in June 1990. Digital Graffiti is unrelated
to that list.

4 - What should I post to the list?

This is an unmoderated list--that means there are no regulations
(attached to this list) on what you post. However, the regular
rules of net.conduct apply at all times. The list owner can remove
any subscriber at any time for violating the general rules of
conduct, in the (hopefully unlikely) event it becomes necessary.

New subscribers should wait a few days before posting, so that they
can see the general format other posters are using.

Any news about Zeppelin, its members, its music, or related topics
is welcome on the list. Transcriptions of articles and interviews
are also welcome, assuming you want to take the (minimal) risk of
transcribing without permission. Questions about Zeppelin and
related topics are also encouraged--there is almost always someone
out there who can answer the question. Opinion is welcome on the
list, as are reviews and commentary.

A few topics are either not welcome or are frowned upon. Remember
that no one will prevent you from discussing these topics, but there
may exist strong sentiment against the topic from other list members:

--Administrative requests. The correct address is in every FAQL,
and is also posted periodically by the list owner.

--Messages to individuals. Posts to the list should be of interest
to nearly all readers.

--Trades and sales of merchandise. Saying, "I have a vinyl copy of
Jimmy Page's first single for sale" is fine, actually concluding
the deal on the list is not. Also, the offer of specific bootlegs
for sale on the list is discouraged--instead post that you have
"unreleased Zeppelin material" for sale and conduct the balance
of the transactions by private email.

--Lists of bootlegs. See the section on bootlegs for more discussion
of this--but in a nutshell, restrict this kind of thing to private
email. Note that discussion of bootlegs is OK.

--"Flames"--posts unusually full of "fighting words" and personal
attacks, not intended to be humorous or ironic.

There are also a few topics and types of messages that, while not
exactly "unwelcome," may be either over-discussed or tiresome to
the majority of the list. Feel free to post on these matters if
you want, but remember that not everyone will share your enthusiasm:

--Whether or not there are backwards messages in "Stairway To

--Whether or not Jimmy Page was a Satanist.

--Discussions about the relative merits of Robert Plant and Jimmy

--Whether or not Jimmy Page has "lost it."

--Polls of any kind, especially best/worst song/album.

--A long series of short messages, one topic per message--this
kind of thing will annoy people.

--Almost any message that contains the word "sucks."

--Any misspelling of the group's name. ;-)

Use your own best judgement in each case--and certainly feel free
to contribute to any such discussion if one is in progress. This
is not a proscription, merely a warning.

5 - Who was in Led Zeppelin?

James Patrick Page (b. 9 January 1944 in Heston, Middlesex)
John Baldwin (John Paul Jones) (b. 3 January 1946 in Sidcup,
Kent) "Jonesy"
John Henry Bonham (b. 31 May 1948 in Redditch, Worcestershire,
d. 25 September 1980 Windsor) "Bonzo"
Robert Anthony Plant (b. 20 August 1948 West Bromwich,
Staffordshire) "Percy"

Zeppelin's manager was Peter Grant.

6 - How and when did John Bonham die?

On 24 September 1980, Bonham left Worcestershire to meet with the
group at Bray studios for rehearsals for the upcoming US tour.
He consumed a steady diet of quadruple screwdrivers along the way.
After the rehearsals, the band retreated to Page's Windsor house,
where Bonham continued to drink and then passed out. At around
1:45pm on 25 September, sound technician and Plant roadie Benji Le
Fevre checked on Bonham to find out why he hadn't stirred. There
was no pulse. A doctor arrived and pronounced Bonham dead at the
scene. A subsequent coroner's inquest revealed the cause of death
to be accidental -- Bonham choked on his own vomit after drinking
the equivalent of 40 measures of vodka. Alcohol poisoning may
have been involved, but was not positively determined. On
4 December 1980, Led Zeppelin issued the following statement:

"We wish it to be known that the loss of our dear friend and the
deep respect we have for his family, together with the sense of
undivided harmony felt by ourselves and our manager, have led us
to decide that we could not continue as we were."

7 - When and where was Led Zeppelin formed?

A brief chronology:

Jimmy Page joins The Yardbirds in June of 1966, first playing
bass, then dual lead guitar with Jeff Beck, then replacing Beck
in November of the same year. In December, John Paul Jones does
string arrangements for The Yardbirds' album Little Games.

In 1967, Robert Plant and John Bonham come together in The Band
Of Joy. In March of the same year, Jeff Beck releases a solo
single entitled "Hi Ho Silver Lining," which is backed with a
Page composition entitled "Beck's Bolero". This song is recorded
by Page, Beck, Nicky Hopkins, John Paul Jones, and Keith Moon.
At this session Moon and John Entwistle, who are tired of The
Who's infighting, discuss forming a band with Page and Beck. It
is here that Moon announces that they should call the group Lead
Zeppelin, because, "...it'll go over like a ***in' lead balloon!"
(The "a" was later removed from "Lead" so that Americans would
pronounce it correctly.)

In April of 1968, Page plays on Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" (with
Jones arranging). Jones asks to be part of any new group Page may
be forming. The Band Of Joy breaks up in May. On 22 June 1968, it
is announced that Keith Relf and Jim McCarty are leaving The
Yardbirds. In August, Page, Yardbirds' bassist Chris Dreja, and
Peter Grant travel to Birmingham to see Plant in a group called
Hobbstweedle. Plant is offered the vocalist's job in Page's new
band in August, after visiting Page's home. In the same month,
Dreja leaves the project and is replaced by Jones. Plant then
recommends Bonham for drums, and a tireless personal and telegram
campaign convinces Bonham to turn down more lucrative offers from
the likes of Tim Rose and Joe Cocker. In September, the four play
their first rehearsals at Gerrard Street, London. Beginning
September 14 they embark on their first tour, still billed as the
New Yardbirds. They record Led Zeppelin I in October, and play
their first gig as Led Zeppelin at Surrey University October 17.

8 - What albums has Led Zeppelin released?

This discography follows the format:

Title (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the
Song Title One, Song Title Two...

A list of videos.

Any other relevant information.

The following is by no means a complete discography, but covers
the principal releases of the band in the US. Singles are, in
all but one case, ignored. For a more complete discography
consult Dave Lewis' A Celebration.

Led Zeppelin (January 1969) Atlantic
Good Times Bad Times, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, You Shook
Me, Dazed & Confused, Your Time Is Gonna Come, Black
Mountain Side, Communication Breakdown, I Can't Quit You
Baby, How Many More Times

Three Week Hero (April 1969) Liberty/Beat Goes On (P.J. Proby)
Jim's Blues

This album is noted because all four members of Zeppelin appear
on the listed track.

Led Zeppelin II (October 1969) Atlantic
Whole Lotta Love, What Is And What Should Never Be, The
Lemon Song, Thank You, Heartbreaker, Livin' Lovin' Maid
(She's Just A Woman), Ramble On, Moby Dick, Bring It On Home

This album is sometimes called "The Brown Bomber"--a reference to
the color and theme of the cover.

Led Zeppelin III (October 1970) Atlantic
Immigrant Song, Friends, Celebration Day, Since I've Been
Loving You, Out On The Tiles, Gallows Pole, Tangerine,
That's The Way, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Hats Off To (Roy) Harper

On some pressings of this album, an Aleister Crowley quote is
scribed into the runoff matrix of the vinyl (the space between the
last groove and the label). There are also some forged versions of
this pressing.

"Immigrant Song" b/w "Hey Hey What Can I Do" (1970) Atlantic
US Single

This exists on cassingle and CD single as well.

Untitled (November 1971) Atlantic
Black Dog, Rock And Roll, The Battle Of Evermore, Stairway
To Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop, Four Sticks, Going To
California, When The Levee Breaks

The original album had no band or title identification anywhere on
the cover or inside, with the exception of the "Produced by Jimmy
Page" credit on the inside jacket and the printed lyrics to "Stairway
To Heaven."

Untitled (September 1988) HMV Classic Collection
3500-copy limited edition boxed version of the fourth album.

The New Age Of Atlantic (May 1972) Atlantic (various artists)
Hey Hey What Can I Do

Houses Of The Holy (March 1973) Atlantic
The Song Remains The Same, The Rain Song, Over The Hills And
Far Away, The Crunge, Dancing Days, D'yer Mak'er, No
Quarter, The Ocean

The odd colors on this album cover are a printing error.

Physical Graffiti (February 1975) Swan Song
Custard Pie, The Rover, In My Time Of Dying, Trampled
Underfoot, Houses Of The Holy, Kashmir, In The Light,
Bron-Yr-Aur, Down By The Seaside, Ten Years Gone, Night
Flight, The Wanton Song, Boogie With Stu, Black Country
Woman, Sick Again

Presence (April 1976) Swan Song
Achilles Last Stand, For Your Life, Royal Orleans, Nobody's
Fault But Mine, Candy Story Rock, Hots On For Nowhere, Tea
For One

Soundtrack From The Film The Song Remains The Same (October
1976) Swan Song
Rock And Roll, Celebration Day, The Song Remains The Same,
The Rain Song, Dazed And Confused, No Quarter, Stairway To
Heaven, Moby Dick, Whole Lotta Love

In Through The Out Door (August 1979) Swan Song
In The Evening, South Bound Suarez, Fool In The Rain, Hot
Dog, Carouselambra, All My Love, I'm Gonna Crawl

Coda (November 1982) Swan Song
We're Gonna Groove, Poor Tom, I Can't Quit You Baby,
Walter's Walk, Ozone Baby, Darlene, Bonzo's Montreaux,
Wearing And Tearing

Led Zeppelin (4CD boxed set) (October 1990) Atlantic
Selections from the studio albums, with the addition of "Hey
Hey What Can I Do," a live in-studio "White Summer/Black
Mountain Side," a live in-studio "Traveling Riverside
Blues," and a Page amalgamation of "Moby Dick" and "Bonzo's
Montreaux". All tracks remastered from the lowest-generation
tapes available by Jimmy Page and George Marino.

Videos for "Over The Hills And Far Away" and "Traveling Riverside
Blues" were released. The videos are a mixture of conceptual
footage and carefully edited clips from a variety of live videos
(some clearly not from The Song Remains The Same--such as the
Knebworth footage).

Remasters (2CD boxed set) (October 1990) Atlantic
The non-US version of the 4CD set, later released in the
States. Condensed "greatest hits" package of the remastered
material, with the addition of "Good Times Bad Times" (not on
the 4CD set). Some editions contain Profiled, an interview
with the band.

Boxed Set 2 (2CD boxed set) (September 1993) Atlantic
Remastered versions of all the material not on the 4CD set,
plus "Baby Come On Home," an unreleased track from the I

Led Zeppelin--The Complete Studio Recordings (10CD boxed set)
Atlantic (September 1993)
Remastered versions of the original 9 studio recordings with
the original cover art, in a case. All the "previously
unreleased" material appearing on the other sets is tacked
on to the end of Coda, with the exception of the "Moby Dick"/
"Bonzo's Montreaux" marriage. The cover depicts the inside
of a Zeppelin.

9 - What videos has the band released?

This videography will cover major, legal releases. Videos listed
in quotations do not appear in any known compilations.

Led Zeppelin:

The Song Remains The Same (1976--released 1984) Warner Video
Autumn Lake, Bron-Y-Aur, Rock And Roll, Black Dog, Since
I've Been Loving You, The Song Remains The Same, The Rain
Song, Stairway To Heaven, Dazed And Confused, Moby Dick,
Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love, Stairway To Heaven

Directed by Joe Massot and Peter Clifton, recorded live at Madison
Square Garden July 27, 28, and 29, 1973, and at various locations.
Released to theaters in 1976. Page: "I wouldn't mind paying some
attention to the laser disc and video, as well."

Supershow (September 1986) Virgin Vision (various)
Dazed And Confused

Recorded live at Staines Studios on March 25, 1969. More songs
were probably performed, but remain unreleased.

Rock Aid Armenia (November 1989) Virgin Video (various)
Dazed & Confused, Satisfaction Guaranteed

"Dazed" is from the Supershow footage, "SG" is from the Firm.

The First Cuts (1990)
Outtakes from TSRTS. Recalled.

"Over The Hills And Far Away" (October 1990) Atlantic Video

"Traveling Riverside Blues" (October 1990) Atlantic Video

These videos are a mixture of conceptual footage and carefully-
edited clips from a variety of live videos (some clearly not
from The Song Remains The Same--such as the Knebworth footage).

Jimmy Page:

Royal Albert Hall ARMS Concert Part 2 (1983) Videoform (various)
Prelude, Who's To Blame, City Sirens, Stairway To Heaven,
Tulsa Time, Layla, Goodnight Irene

Part of a two tape set, Page appears on the above tracks. Also
see below.

"Sea Of Love" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The Honeydrippers)

Page does not actually appear in the video.

The Firm Live At Hammersmith 1984 (1985) Atlantic Video (The

Live footage from two Firm dates in December 1984. Promo only--
was not released for sale.

"These Arms Of Mine" (1985) Decca (Willie & The Poorboys)

Five From The Firm (1986) Atlantic Home Video (The Firm)
Tear Down The Walls, Satisfaction Guaranteed, All The King's
Horses, Radioactive, Live In Peace

Extremely hard to find, even when it was new.

"Wasting My Time" (June 1988) Geffen Video

Knebworth: The Event Vol. 3 (1990) Castle Video (various)
Wearing And Tearing, Rock And Roll

Part of a longer concert, Page appears on the listed tracks.

The ARMS Concert (1991) Rhino (various artists)
Prelude, Who's To Blame, City Sirens, Stairway To Heaven,
Tulsa Time, Layla, Goodnight Irene

A single-tape version of the one listed above. Page appears on
the listed tracks.

"Pride & Joy" (March 1993) Geffen Video (Coverdale/Page)

"Take Me For A Little While" (July 1993) Geffen Video

Robert Plant:
"Little Sister" (January 1980) Swan Song/Atlantic Video (Rockpile)

Live performance from the Rock For Kampuchea concert.

"Burning Down One Side" (June 1982) Swan Song/Atlantic Video

Prince's Trust Rock Gala (1984) MGA/UA (various artists)
Worse Than Detroit, I Wanna Take You Higher

Part of a longer concert, Plant appears on the listed tracks.

"Sea Of Love" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The Honeydrippers)

"Rockin' At Midnight" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The

"Pink & Black" (May 1985) Atlantic Video

"Heaven Knows" (March 1988) Atlantic Video

"Ship Of Fools" (March 1988) Atlantic Video

Mumbo Jumbo (1989) Warner Video
Heaven Knows, Big Log, Little By Little, In The Mood, Tall
Cool One (plus additional footage)

"Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes On You)" (March 1990) Atlantic

"Nirvana" (March 1990) Atlantic Video

Knebworth: The Event Vol. 3 (1990) Castle Video (various)
Hurting Kind, Tall Cool One, Wearing And Tearing, Rock And

Part of a longer concert, Plant appears on the listed tracks.

"Calling To You" (June 1993) Atlantic Video

"29 Palms" (1993) Atlantic Video

"I Believe" (1993) Atlantic Video

John Paul Jones:

Give My Regards To Broad Street (1988) CBS Fox (movie)

Jones appears in the "Ballroom Dancing" segment.

10 - Should I buy the boxed sets? Which one(s) should I buy?

The sound quality of the newly remastered material is incredibly
improved over the original US CD releases. For that reason alone
any of them are worth getting. And the combination of the two
principal sets or the "complete" set gives one all the studio
material in remastered form. As for the "unreleased" material--
"HHWCID" is available on the "Immigrant Song" single, "Traveling
Riverside Blues" is a staple of AOR radio, and there are many
versions of "White Summer" superior to the one released on the set,
so that should not be the deciding factor. The packaging of the
sets, from cover art to liner notes, is incredible.

However, the impending release of the newly-remastered "original"
CDs has made this choice a difficult one. Basically, it comes down
to the presence of the "unreleased" material, a choice of packaging,
and the order in which one wants to hear the songs. The cost of
getting one of the set combinations will almost assuredly be less
than the eventual total cost of the individual CDs.

The purchase of the original, unremastered CDs is not recommended
due to their poor sound quality.

According to Page, the remastered individual CDs may be out
sometime in 1994.

11 - Will The Song Remains The Same be remastered?

Atlantic said no. However--Page: "That will be done in the

12 - So what is the fourth album called, anyway?

Nothing. It's officially untitled. It's commonly referred to as
Four Symbols, ZOSO, and most often simply Led Zeppelin IV. The
album, as originally released, carried absolutely no band or
title identification anywhere on the jacket.

13 - What's the deal with those four symbols?

Page's symbol, while not standing for "ZOSO" or any combination
of letters, is a mystery. It resembles the alchemical symbol for
mercury, but no more is known. Plant reports being once told what
it meant, but he has since forgotten. Jones' symbol (the circle
with the trisecting ovals) came from a book of runes and is said
to represent confidence and competence. It also appears on the
cover of a book about the Rosicrucians, for reasons unknown.
Bonham's (the three intersecting circles) came from the same book,
and represents the man-wife-child trilogy. Some have remarked
that it is the symbol for Ballantine Beer. Plant, like Page,
designed his own symbol, and the feather in the circle is based
on a sign of the ancient Mu civilization.

14 - What's that thing on the Presence cover?

It's called either The Obelisk or The Object, and was created by
Hipgnosis (the design company) to represent Led Zeppelin's "force
and presence." It was not intended as a reference to the Monolith
of 2001, though the resemblance has been noted by many; including
Page himself.

15 - What's up with the album covers for In Through The Out Door?

There are 6 different covers, each showing the same scene from a
different point of view. The album originally came in a plain
brown wrapper. An added bonus -- the inner sleeve, when dampened,
changes color. In case it wasn't obvious, this refers only to the
vinyl versions of the album.

16 - What's up with (song title) (and who's Roy Harper)?

A few notes about individual songs:

"How Many More Times" -- This is one of three songs in which Page
employs the bow. There is a brief tribute/reference/inside
joke during the long instrumental section where the band plays
part of the Page-written "Beck's Bolero."

"Dazed And Confused" -- The Yardbirds performed this with different
lyrics as "I'm Confused". The guitar solo following the bow
section is Page's solo from the Yardbirds' "Think About It."
The second of the three songs on which Page employs the bow.

"Black Mountain Side" -- Viram Jasani plays tabla.

"Whole Lotta Love" -- The "middle section" was created with the
theremin, some recorded drums, vocal gymnastics from Plant
(heavily filtered through various effects), and a lot of
random knob-twisting by Page and Eddie Kramer in the studio.

"Out On The Tiles" -- The title is British slang for "a night on
the town." It is Page that can be heard saying "stop!" in
this song, reminding himself to stop playing.

"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" -- Roy Harper is an English folk
musician who toured (though didn't perform) with Zeppelin
and with whom Page and other Zeppelin members have worked,
recorded, and toured. He is probably best known for his
lead vocal on Pink Floyd's "Have A Cigar."

"Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" -- "Bron-Y-Aur" is a misspelling of Bron-Yr-Aur.

"Friends" -- The synth drone at the end covers a production
mistake (the original intro to "Celebration Day" was erased.)
The strings in the song are real.

"Since I've Been Loving You" -- Bonham's bass drum pedal squeaks
during much of this song (it's especially annoying during the

"Tangerine" -- This was a Page composition left over from the
Yardbirds days.

"Black Dog" -- The title came from a black dog that wandered in
and out of the studio during the IV sessions.

"The Battle Of Evermore" -- Sandy Denny (of Fairport Convention)
on vocals. Her parts were handled live by John Paul Jones.

"Misty Mountain Hop" -- Yes, there is a mistake in this song,
(in the line that begins "There you sit..."), though the band
apparently felt the rest of the take was too good to replace.

"Four Sticks" -- Bonham used 4 sticks while recording this song
(two in each hand) hence the title.

"When The Levee Breaks" -- The drum sound was produced by placing
Bonham's kit in a stone stairwell, and hanging a microphone
from the stairs a few flights up.

"D'yer Mak'er" -- pronounced like Jamaica.

"The Rain Song" -- The "strings" on this song are actually a

"The Ocean" -- There is a phone ringing at about 1:37 in. Don't
ask why. The countoff at the beginning is Bonham: "We've
done four already, but now we're steady, and then they went:
one, two, three, four."

"Kashmir" -- There are keyboards on this song, but there are also
real strings and horns.

"Black Country Woman" -- The sound from an overhead plane was not
removed from the intro, thanks to Plant's audible "No, leave
it in."

"Bron-Yr-Aur" -- A cabin where Zeppelin often retreated for
composition and relaxation. It means "The Golden Breast".
The unusually "thick" guitar sound is a combination of an
open tuning and clever use of backward echo.

"Boogie With Stu" -- Stu is Ian Stewart, the Stones resident

"In The Evening" -- The third song in which Page employs the bow.
The unusual noises in the guitar solo are caused by the
springs of a fully-depressed whammy bar.

"All My Love" -- The strings and horn sounds are all synths.

"I Can't Quit You Baby" -- The live version on Coda is from the
Royal Albert Hall performance (widely available on bootleg
video)--not the rehearsal as is sometimes claimed.

"Darlene" -- Jones (not Ian Stewart) plays the piano.

17 - Are there a lot of references to J.R.R. Tolkien's works in
Led Zeppelin songs?

Not really. "Ramble On" and "The Battle Of Evermore" feature
direct references, as does the title "Misty Mountain Hop," but
that's it.

18 - Didn't Led Zeppelin copy (song title) from (blues artist)?

Yes, no, and maybe. Here's a partial list of covers, credited
and otherwise, and sources. Thanks to Wearing & Tearing, Glen
Cunliffe, Christopher Williams, Proximity, Hugh Jones, Bill
Bratton, and Colin Harper for much of the info in this section.

"White Summer" -- Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" -- Anne Bredon (a/k/a Annie Briggs)
(the Joan Baez version was the one this was based on).

"You Shook Me" -- Willie Dixon, first recorded by Muddy Waters.

"I Can't Quit You Baby" -- Willie Dixon.

"Communication Breakdown" -- Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."

"How Many More Times" -- Howlin Wolf's "How Many More Years,"
Albert King's "The Hunter," Zeppelin's version is lyrically
related to a cover called "How Many More Times" by Gary
Farr and the T-Bones (liner notes by Giorgio Gomelsky,
one-time producer of The Yardbirds).

"Dazed And Confused" -- Jake Holmes, written and recorded as
"Dazed & Confused." The Yardbirds covered it under the
title "I'm Confused," with different lyrics. Page again
changed the lyrics (which were originally about an acid
trip) for the Zeppelin version. The version on the Session
Man album (on Archive) credited to the New Yardbirds is
actually the Holmes original. Page: "I don't know about
all that. I'd rather not get into it because I don't know
all the circumstances. What's he got, the riff or whatever?
Because Robert wrote some of the lyrics on that album. But
he was only listening to...we extended it from the one that
we were playing with the Yardbirds. I haven't heard Jake
Holmes so I don't know what it's all about anyway. Usually
my riffs are pretty damn original [laughs]. What can I say?"

"Black Mountain Side" -- traditional, Annie Briggs, Bert Jansch
The main riff is almost identical to the riff Jansch uses
in his song "BlackWater Side," though he cites Annie Briggs
as an earlier source. Page: "I wasn't totally original on
that riff. It had been done in folk clubs a lot. Annie
Briggs was the first one that I heard do that riff. I was
playing it as well, and then there was Bert Jansch's version."
The DADGAD tuning used here and on "White Summer," "Kashmir,"
"Swan Song" (see the unreleased section), and "Midnight
Moonlight" was supposedly invented by Davey Graham, though
whether or not Page knew this is unclear.

"The Lemon Song" -- Chester Burnett (a/k/a Howlin Wolf) "Killing
Floor," Robert Johnson ("squeeze my lemon" lyric). In some
early concerts and on some pressings of II, the song was
actually called "Killing Floor." ARC Music filed a suit
against Zeppelin in the early 70's, which was settled out
of court. Ironically, the "squeeze my lemon" lyric was
lifted by Johnson as well--from Art McKay ("She Squeezed
My Lemon"--1937).

"Moby Dick" -- Bobby Parker (music), Ginger Baker's "Toad" (drum
solo). The song was originally entitled "The Girl I Love,"
which was written in 1929 by Sleepy John Estes and called
"The Girl I Love, She Got Long Curly Hair." There are also
some drum lines lifted intact from George Suranovich's drum
solo with Arthur Lee's Love's song "Doggone."

"Whole Lotta Love" -- Willie Dixon's "You Need Love" (lyrics).
Plant: "Page's riff was Page's riff. It was there before
anything else. I just thought, 'well, what am I going to
sing?' That was it, a nick. Now happily paid for. At the
time, there was a lot of conversation about what to do. It
was decided that it was so far away in time (it was in fact
7 years) and influence that...well, you only get caught when
you're successful. That's the game." Willie Dixon sued
Zeppelin (actually friends of his at the time) in 1985 when
his daughter noticed the resemblance--though by this time,
Zeppelin has sold the rights to their international catalog
and knew in advance of the suit, which was filed only
after the sale had been completed.

"Thank You" -- There is a striking chordal similarity to Traffic's
"Dear Mr. Fantasy." There is an intriguing rumor that Page
is actually the guitarist on the Traffic song, though no
one involved has confirmed this.

"Bring It On Home" -- Written by Willie Dixon, though the Sonny
Boy Williamson I version is the one which this bears a
similarity to. The "Lemon Song" lawsuit also included
language about this song.

"Traveling Riverside Blues" -- Robert Johnson (lyrics only),
Johnny Winter's "Leavin' Blues" (music).

"Since I've Been Loving You" -- brief lyrical nod to Moby Grape's

"Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" -- intro lifted from "The Waggoner's Tale" by
Bert Jansch.

"Gallows Pole" -- traditional, associated with Leadbelly. Page
says that his version was based on a cover of the song by
Fred Gerlach.

"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" -- traditional, Bukka White (song
entitled "Shake 'Em On Down"), also covered by Joe Lee
Williams and Blind Lemon Jefferson.

"Black Dog" -- the vocal arrangement is very similar to Fleetwood
Mac's "Oh Well."

"Rock And Roll" -- drawn from Little Richard's "Good Golly Miss
Molly/Keep A Knockin'" (mostly the drum line).

"Stairway To Heaven" -- Possible (though unlikely) lift from
"And She's Lonely" by The Chocolate Watch Band, which
became the intro chords. There's really no way of knowing
for sure. The solo chords are also similar to the chords
of Dylan's (and Hendrix's) "All Along The Watchtower,"
though the chord progression is hardly uncommon and any
direct influence is also unlikely.

"When The Levee Breaks" -- Memphis Minnie and Kansas Joe McCoy.

Physical Graffiti -- The album cover is identical in concept
and very similar in design to the cover of the Jose
Feliciano album Compartments, including the pull-out
card and the "hidden" photos.

"Custard Pie" -- Sleepy John Estes did a song entitled "Drop
Down Daddy" in 1935, which seems to be the earliest source
for this material. Blind Boy Fuller recorded a song
entitled "I Want Some Of Your Pie" in 1939. Sonny Terry
covered it with the title "Custard Pie Blues." Big Joe
Williams also covered it under the title "Drop Down Mama,"
and his lyrics are pretty much identical to Plant's. There
is also some Bukka White material in the song.

"In My Time Of Dying" -- Traditional. First recorded by Blind
Willie Johnson as "Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed," which is
more like the Zeppelin version than the well-known Bob
Dylan cover. Plant has cited Josh White's 1933 "Jesus
Make Up My Dying Bed" as the source for Zeppelin's version.
A much closer version appears on the self-titled album
by the Canadian band Fear Itself, whose "In My Time OF
Dying" is credited to Ellen McIlwaine, the band's lead
singer and slide guitarist. Besides many musical and
length similarities, the Fear Itself version ends with
the line, "My dying...cough."

"Boogie With Stu" -- Ritchie Valens. Page: "The jam [with Ian
Stewart] turned into 'Boogie With Stu,' which was obviously
a variation on 'Ooh My Head' by the late Ritchie Valens,
which itself was actually a variation of Little Richard's
'Ooh My Soul.' What we tried to do was give Ritchie's mother
credit, because we heard she never received any royalties
from any of her son's hits, and Robert did lean on that lyric
a bit. So what happens? They tried to sue us for all of the
song! We had to say 'bugger off.'" The Valens song bears
a strong similarity to Memphis Minnie's "I Called You This

"Nobody's Fault But Mine" -- Blind Willie Johnson (lyrics).
Plant: "First of all, it's public domain because he's been
dead so long, and secondly it wasn't his song in the first
place--nobody knows where it comes from."

"In The Evening" -- James Carr has a song called "In the Evening,
When The Sun Goes Down." The music is not similar.

"We're Gonna Groove" -- Ben E. King, James Bethea.

"Darlene" -- One line from Don McLean's "American Pie."

So is this thievery? With the exception of the uncredited Willie
Dixon tunes and the lifting by the Yardbirds of Jake Holmes'
"D&C," probably not. Anyone who understands the blues tradition
knows that theft is an irrelevant concept within that musical
genre. Willie Dixon may have been more savvy about copyrights
than his counterparts, but he was no stranger to plagiarism
himself. Most of the "songs" Dixon copyrighted could be
considered public domain.

Besides, as was the case with "Traveling Riverside Blues," the
Zeppelin version often bore little (if any) resemblance to the
original. Page: "...Robert was supposed to change the [lyrics],
and he didn't always do that--which is what brought on most of our
grief." [...] "So, anyway, if there is any plagiarism, just blame
Robert! (laughs)"

19 - What's Zeppelin's best song/album?

This is a purely subjective opinion -- there's no right answer.

Albums -- IV has sold the most copies, though it never hit #1
(it was behind Carole King's Tapestry). Critics and fans
usually pick either IV or Physical Graffiti as the best,
though the album most often cited by musicians as being
influential in their early development is II. Plant's favorite
is Physical Graffiti.

Songs -- "Stairway To Heaven" is one of the most-requested and
most-played rock songs of all time. It was never released as a
single, so comparisons to "I Will Always Love You" (by Whitney
Houston--the biggest-selling single of all time) are not
applicable. The band seems to feel that "Kashmir" captures their
essence better than any other song, though Page and Jones profess
abiding love for "Stairway To Heaven," and Page is particularly
proud of "Achilles Last Stand." Plant loathes "Stairway."

20 - Is there any more unreleased material?

There are very few (if any) unreleased studio Zeppelin songs, as
most of the extras appeared on Physical Graffiti, Coda, and the
boxed sets. There are quite a few jams and alternate takes floating
around, however. Nirvana reported the existence of a few more
unreleased tracks, which had found their way to the band through a

As far as professionally-recorded live audio and video, most of
this still resides in Page's vaults, though many of the soundboard
bootlegs of the past few years were mastered from tapes stolen from
Page's house. The 1977 tour in particular is known to be pretty
thoroughly recorded. Page: "We also have live tapes going back to
1970, that go all the way through Knebworth in 1979."

This long-rumored Page-produced live retrospective is unlikely to
appear. George Marino of Sterling Sound is quoted about Page's
attitude toward releasing live material -- "Even if they were
guaranteed to sell a million of a live thing, I don't think
he'd put it out if he didn't feel that the playing was good

Page has recently expressed some interest in releasing live
material (audio and video), but Plant has killed the idea. Page:
"But Robert has never been keen on doing it. You can't very well
do it if someone is vetoing the bloody thing. It's a lot of work
to go through all these tapes, and I'm not going to do it if he's
going to stop it."

However, the fate of one particular outtake is known. In his
essay for the boxed set, Cameron Crowe mentioned the "unreleased
'Swan Song,'" a solo guitar work in the same tuning as "Kashmir"
and "White Summer". According to Crowe in a recent Prodigy article,
this tune was incorporated into Page's live "White Summer"/"Black
Mountain Side"/"Kashmir" medley (bits of it can be heard as early
as 1970) and eventually resurfaced as part of a "work-in-progress"
with Paul Rodgers on the American leg of the ARMS tour. Later, it
was fleshed out to become the core of the song "Midnight Moonlight"
on the Firm's first album.

21 - How does the band feel about bootlegs?

First of all, a few definitions--"bootlegs" are, in this case,
defined as live concert recordings, studio outtakes, radio
broadcasts, and similar material neither released nor sanctioned
by the band or its management. They are not to be confused with
counterfeit copies of legitimate releases, which are uniformly
denounced and actively prosecuted by the law.

In the past, Peter Grant used to make surprise stops in record
stores to destroy any Zeppelin bootlegs he found. He also
confiscated or destroyed any microphones and recording equipment
he found at concerts. Since then, however, the band has mellowed
considerably on the subject.

Jimmy Page: "Coda was released, basically, because there was
so much bootleg stuff out. We thought, 'Well, if there's that
much interest, then we may as well put the rest of our studio
stuff out.'" Yet another reason the much-discussed chronological
live album has not been released is, according to Page, because,
"there are so many bootlegs around that people who are interested
have probably made up their own compilation." He also has said,
on the possibility of more studio outtakes being released: "Ah,
no. There's some great live stuff. But there's also some great
live bootlegs, ha ha. Thank God they're there and thanks to the
people who send me these things. I listen to them and go, 'My
God, that was good. I wish it had been recorded on the line.'"

Robert Plant has often been known to autograph bootlegs, and all
three members have from time to time requested copies of some of
the better known productions. And a Page fan reports meeting
Page and giving him a copy of a 10-album Zeppelin bootleg set.
Page said, "Thanks," and continued walking on, as rock stars
usually do when fans hand them something. But when he saw that
the gift was a bootleg, Page stopped, went back to the fan, and
said, "Thanks! This is great!"

Page's opinion of boots has soured somewhat since the release of
Outrider, however, as his house was broken into during the
early recording stages. Among the items stolen were the demo
tapes for what was to be a 2-album release (rather than the 1
that came out as Outrider), numerous studio outtakes and live
soundboard recordings which have since flooded the market, and
the pro-shot Knebworth video from 8-11-79.

Plant's opinion of live material in general seems to have soured
a bit as well, though whether or not he makes a distinction in the
case of bootlegs is not known. Interestingly, he was recently
spotted in a bootleg store in New York, searching for a copy of
the Page/Plant/Bombay Symphony recordings.

22 - Where do I get bootlegs?

This is a touchy subject, as the sale, distribution, and receipt
of bootlegs is illegal. To protect the list from the (extremely
unlikely) possiblility of litigation, care must be taken to
seperate the illegal aspects of bootlegging from the (perfectly
legal) academic discussion of them. Lists of traders will not
appear in this FAQL, nor should the specifics of trading appear
in the list. Bootleg lists, actual trades, bids, and the like
should not be posted. If these subjects (for some reason)
must be addressed, do so in a general and non-specific manner.
Caution should be exercised for the protection of both the list
and the traders themselves. Having supplied the necessary

Small (non-chain) record stores that advertise "New-Old-Used"
records almost always carry bootleg albums and CDs, as well as
some out-of-print stuff. Goldmine and Record Collector
magazine can be scanned for sources, though Goldmine no longer
allows small collectors to specifically advertise bootlegs. Tape
trading, the most popular form of collecting, is usually restricted
to individuals rather than organizations or companies. Though
beginning collectors often have no choice, many tape traders frown
upon the "sale" of bootlegs--preferring "even" trades (sometimes
with postage compensation) to buying and selling.

Most often, simply posting to the list and stating your desire to
find unreleased Zeppelin material will start the ball rolling. If
you have bootlegs that you want to trade, then a post to that effect
is acceptable (while a detailed list may not be).

Note that the discussion of bootlegs is in no way illegal, and is
an important facet of the list's discussions.

23 - Which bootlegs should I start with?

This is a very short list of the most popular collections/shows
culled from A Celebration and ZOSO Magazine. A more up-to-date
version is in preparation. Apologies if your favorites were left

The ZOSO Top Ten CDs:

Tour Over Europe '80 (Zurich), Moonlight/Dinosaur, Dallas '75,
Classics Off The Air I, II, & III, Blueberry Hill, Live In San
Francisco, Destroyer (Archive version), Stokes '73, Rotterdam
'80, Silver Coated Rails/Rock & Roll

Recommendations culled from a special ZOSO feature and A

LP's -- Bonzo's Birthday Party, Cologne 1980, Copenhagen
Warm-Ups--The 2nd Night, Feel All Right, Fillmore West 1969, V
1/2 (Highway or TMQ), For Badgeholders Only, Going To California,
How Many More Times, Knebworth (Stork), Live At The Budokan, Pb
(a/k/a Mudslide), No Quarter, Tangible Vandalism, Three Days
After, 214, 207.19, LA Forum--A Night At The Heartbreak Hotel,
Persistence, Live at the Chicago Stadium, Bonzo's Last Ever Gig
In Berlin, The Can, In The Light '69-'85, Something Else,
Hiawatha Express, The Making Of Friends, Studio Rehearsals May
1970, Inedits, Out Through The Back Door, The Last Rehearsal,
Listen To This Eddie, Strange Tales From The road, Alpha Omega,
White Summer, Live at the London Lyceum, Bath Festival 1970, My
Brain Hurts, Quantient, Bonzo's Birthday Party

CDs -- (in addition to above list)--Something Else, Studio
Daze, Last Stand/ Final Touch, Jennings Farm Blues Tapes--2-1-69
Fillmore East, 4-7-70 Raleigh NC, 9-29-71 Festival Hall Osaka,
6-9-71 Charlotte NC, 6-19-72 Seattle, 6-25-72 The Forum LA, 10-4
& 10-9-72 Osaka, 5-5-73 Tampa, 5-13-73 Mobile AL, 5-14-73 New
Orleans, 5-19-73 Fort Worth, 7-6-73 Chicago, 7-21-73 Providence,
7-26-73 Buffalo, 2-12-75 MSG NY, 2-28-75 Louisiana State
University Baton Rouge, 3-5-75 Dallas, 3-10-75 San Diego, 3-24 &
3-25 & 3-27-75 LA Forum, 5-(17,18,23,24,25)-75 Earls Court,
6-7-77 MSG NY, 6-19-77 San Diego, 6-(21,25,27)-77 LA Forum,
7-23-77 Oakland, 8-11-79 Knebworth, 7-2 & 7-3-80 Mannheim

Videos -- Danish TV 1969, 1-9-70 Royal Albert Hall, 1-21-75
Chicago, 2-8-75 Philadelphia, 3-75 Seattle, 3-24-75 LA Forum,
5-18-77 Birmingham, 7-23-77 Oakland, 7-11-79 Knebworth, 7-5-80

Note that there's duplication and overlap in the above lists. A
few notes about formats--the quality of CD releases is only
occasionally better than other formats, but the permanence and
playback advantages of CDs have convinced many collectors to
concentrate on them. The CDs are not always tracked well, though--
track markers are often misplaced or missing altogether. LPs
suffer from quality problems with repeated playback and
scratching, but have the advantage of better packaging. Tapes are
the cheapest option, and suffer the most from each playback/
copy--thus low generation tapes are prized by tape traders.
However, tapes have two significant advantages over other formats:
many shows have never appeared on CD or LP, and complete concerts
are much easier to obtain on this format (CDs and LPs exhibit the
so-called "slice and dice" mentality of bootleggers trying to deal
with maximum time strictures and still make money).

24 - Are there any books on Led Zeppelin?

Many. Few good ones, though. The key resources are:

Led Zeppelin -- Howard Mylett

Led Zeppelin In The Light -- Howard Mylett and Richard Bunton

Led Zeppelin From The Archives -- Howard Mylett

Photos, 56 pages. Contact Howard Mylett, 151 Thornhill Rise,
Mile Oak, Portslade, Sussex, BN41 2YJ, England. 10 pounds

Led Zeppelin: The Definitive Biography -- Richie Yorke

Led Zeppelin In Their Own Words -- Paul Kendall

Led Zeppelin: A Visual Documentary -- Paul Kendall

Led Zeppelin Portraits -- Neal Preston -- This book is a
must-have, as Preston was an "official" photographer and
knew better than anyone how to capture Zeppelin's mystique.

Led Zeppelin: The Final Acclaim -- Dave Lewis

Led Zeppelin: The Book -- Chris Welch

Stairway To Heaven -- Richard Cole -- Basically a rewrite of
Hammer Of The Gods, with a few more personal stories and
photos thrown in. Less ridiculous speculation than Davis'
book, though. Page: "There's a book written by our former
road manager, Richard Cole that has made me completely ill.
I'm so mad about it that I can't even bring myself to read
the whole thing. The two bits that I have read are so
ridiculously false, that I'm sure if I read the rest I'd
be able to sue Cole and the publishers. But it would be
so painful to read that it wouldn't be worth it.

The Illustrated Collectors Guide To Led Zeppelin -- Robert
Godwin -- Another must-have, covers the legal and bootleg
discographies on vinyl and CD. The 3rd edition is the
latest (and possibly last)--the incredible pace of CD
releases makes much of this obsolete, however.

Led Zeppelin Live (An Illustrated Exploration Of Underground
Tapes) -- Luis Rey -- Features concert reviews, photos,
and bootleg descriptions, along with the matching of
concerts to specific bootlegs. Susan Pickel-Hedrick and
Base Hedrick (editors of the Page fanzine Oh Jimmy)
also edited this book. It is available from Hot Wacks
Press, 544 Owen Sound, N4K 5R1, Canada for $14.99 plus
$3.00 postage.

Led Zeppelin A Celebration -- Dave Lewis -- The principal
resource for this FAQL. Incredible.

Led Zeppelin Heaven And Hell -- Charles Cross and Erik Flannigan,
with Neal Preston -- another key resource for this FAQL.

Jimmy Page: Tangents Within A Framework -- Howard Mylett

Live Dreams -- (author unknown) Contact: LRC Limited
P.O. Box 10648
Chicago, IL 60610-6048
and, of course:

Hammer Of The Gods -- Stephen Davis -- The band denounces it.
It's mostly the whisperings of tour manager/perpetual addict
Richard Cole, whose own book is much more valuable for this
type of insight. Readers should know that Stephen Davis
once claimed (quite seriously), in an interview for a Zeppelin
fanzine, that Jimmy Page had put some sort of curse on him.
Read at your own risk.

25 - Are there any music books featuring Led Zeppelin?

There are many third-party collection (mostly simplified tab
collections) of material from the first five albums, and for
the most part these are not listed here.

"Stairway To Heaven" -- Warner Brothers (piano, notation + tab,
tab, easy piano)
This exists in all 4 formats--the notation + tab format is
licensed by Warner Brothers to Guitar For The Practicing
Musician, the easy piano edition exists as a Warner Brothers
production and in a format licensed to Dan Coates.

Led Zeppelin Complete -- Superhype/Warner Brothers (piano or
piano + tab)
Music from the first 5 albums. This also exists in an
Intermediate Guitar format.

Led Zeppelin Complete Vol. 2 -- Superhype/Flames Of Albion/
Warner Brothers (piano or piano + tab)
Music from the last 4 studio albums. This is not yet widely
available, it seems.

Led Zeppelin Guitar Superstar Series -- Warner Brothers (tab)
Intermediate guitar transcriptions.

Led Zeppelin -- Warner Brothers (notation + tab)
A 2-book companion to the 4CD set, features notation and
tablature for all instruments used on the boxed set tracks.
The transcription is excellent, though the lyrical
interpretations leave something to be desired. Whether or
not this process will be repeated for Boxed Set 2 is

26 - Are there any magazines/fanzines about Led Zeppelin?

Note: this section is provided for information only. No
endorsement or guarantee of the services provided is intended.

P.O. Box 45541
Seattle, WA 98145-0541

Published quarterly.

Subscription info:
Standard--$3 per issue, $12 per year (4 issues)
Premium (mailed in a protective envelope)--$4 per issue, $16 per year
Overseas--$6 per issue, $24 per year (all US funds)
Checks payable to Hugh Jones

Wearing And Tearing
Mark Archer
Flat 3, 13 Lynton Rd
Heaton Moor, Stockport, SK4 4RQ

The Ocean
46 Briarwood Drive
Westwood, MA 02090 (USA)

Oh Jimmy
Susan Hedrick
P.O. Box 6307
Bellevue, WA 98008 (USA)

Oh Jimmy - The Jimmy Page Fanzine
Tim Tirelli
Via Pedretti 12
41015 Nonantola (MO) Italy

Single issues of Oh Jimmy--$4 US, $5 Canada

Electric Magic
186 Bordeaux Dr.
Woodbridge Ontario
Canada L4L 8B6
phone (416)850-2089

$35 Canadian per year (Canada), $35 US per year (US). Monthly.

Tight But Loose
14 Totnes Close
Bedford, MK40 3AX, England

Four issues of the Tight But Loose magazine PLUS four additional
information service newsletters:-

UK------------- 16 all prices inclusive of
Europe--------- 21 all postage costs
USA/Canada----- 28
Australia/Japan 31 all prices in pounds

Payment: by cheque/postal order/eurocheque/international money
order in UK sterling only. Payable to D. Lewis.

The magazine is also available individually to non-subscribers at
the following rates: UK 3.50
Europe 4.50 again, prices in pounds
USA/Canada 6.00
Japan/Australia 6.50

Founded by Dave Lewis, this was the premiere fanzine during Led
Zeppelin's active years. This publication has resurfaced, including:

The Tight But Loose magazine: the original Led Zeppelin magazine
edited and researched by Dave Lewis. Packed with all the
latest news and reviews on the group and related solo
projects. Informative features, exclusive interviews,
Celebration updates, collecting focus and rare visuals make
this Zep periodical the essential companion to their music,
past and present. Published twice annually.

The information service newsletter: The additional interim
detailed newsletter that bridges the gap between magazines.
Available to subscribers only, this update of news and views
is a further aid in staying ahead of all the latest Zep
related activity.

Back issue information: Issues 1 to 6 sold out

Still available - Tight But Loose 7 - The Celebration Update
Special issue sequel to the Dave Lewis book Led Zeppelin A
Celebration. 40,000 word chapter by chapter update.

"It goes without saying that anyone who enjoyed Led Zep A
Celebration needs a copy of Tight But Loose 7 to sit on the
shelf beside it" (Record Collector)

UK 4.00 Europe 5.00 USA/Canada 6.5 Japan/Australia 7.00
prices in pounds.

(thanks to Chris for the above info)

Also, a word about ZOSO Magazine -- due to financial difficulties,
the production of ZOSO has apparently ceased--permanently. The
status of merchandising, etc. is unknown.

27 - Are there any Led Zeppelin fan clubs?

Not that Digital Graffiti is aware of. Sadly, Nirvana has come
to an abrupt end in both its fanzine and fan club formats.

28 - Where do I get Led Zeppelin collectibles (other than bootlegs)?

Super-collector Rick Barrett can be contacted at:

Rick Barrett
PO Box 66262
Houston, TX 77266-6262
fax 713-680-0325

And, of course, almost any music magazine has advertisements for
Zeppelin shirts, posters, keychains, etc. Goldmine magazine
is a source for hard-to-find collectibles.

29 - Where can I get online lyrics, tabulature, GIFs, etc.?

(Note: Info is not guaranteed, and sources remain incomplete
and unverified)

(Note 2: This section is under revision and may be changed
significantly in the future)

Lyrics -- correct lyrics for the Zeppelin catalog are largely
unavailable. The lyric transcription in the boxed set folio is
terrible, the lyrics in Complete are deliberately incorrect in
places, and there are no canonical sources for the rest.
Presence, for instance, remains a particularly hard album to
complete lyrics for. See addresses below. See also the section
on "music books about Led Zeppelin." (Digital Graffiti has put
some effort into improving the lyrical transcriptions, which will
be sent to the lyrics archive as they are modified.)

Tabs -- the boxed set folio has excellent tablature (and standard
notation) for vocals, all guitars, bass, drums and percussion,
keyboards, and all other instruments. See addresses below. See
also the section listing "music books about Led Zeppelin."

GIFs -- See addresses below.

Fonts -- The HOTH font, with the "four symbols," is available
as a TrueType Font for Win 3.1 at:

host: nic.switch.edu
location: software/msdos/win3/fonts/truetype/kashmir.zip

Another great source of info is the Hypercard stack put
together by our own Brian Davies. Info:

"The Led Zeppelin Stack (v1.2) is an interactive database of
lyrics, artwork, set lists, sound samples, trivia and reviews.
The stack will run on any Mac with System 6.0 or greater and
HyperCard 2.0 or greater. It is constantly expanding, and as of
this writing it contains the most complete collection of lyrics
available on the net, about 400K of sounds and art from all the
albums and then some. Songs, albums and concerts are
cross-referenced for easy traversal of the stack. To subscribe
to the stack, mail $10 and either an e-mail address or a
formatted disk & SASE to Brian Davies, 1310 Chicago Ave., Apt.
2A, Evanston, IL 60201. Questions or comments are welcome; I
can be reached at davies@medici.ils.nwu.edu.

FTP sites with Zeppelin info include:

ftp.nevada.edu pub/guitar (tabs)
sumex-aim.stanford.edu info-mac
fonts (HOTH font)
card (Hypercard stack of Zeppelin info)
sound (Zeppelin samples)

Host cs.uwp.edu (or ftp.uwp.edu)

Location: /pub/music/discog
FILE -rw-r--r-- 3319 Dec 20 1990 zeppelin
Location: /pub/music/lyrics/files
DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Nov 21 1991 led.zeppelin

Anyone who can do an Archie search can find many more sources for
info, GIFs, etc. Ask the list for help if you need to.

30 - What did the members of Led Zeppelin do after the band broke

(For more complete information, consult the discography sections.)

Jones recorded the soundtrack for Scream For Help, with the
assistance of Page and Yes' Jon Anderson. He produced albums
by Mission UK, John Renbourn, Stefan Grossman, and his daughter
(Jacinda Jones), as well as a group he referred to as "industrial
flamenco": La Sura Dels Baus. He did string arrangements for
Cinderella's Heartbreak Station, Raging Slab's Dynamite Monster
Boogie Concert, and REM's Automatic For The People, guested on
a Brian Eno album, and appeared on Peter Gabriel's Us playing
surdu, bass, and keyboards. He appeared in Paul McCartney's movie
and soundtrack for Give My Regards To Broadstreet. He appeared
on stage with Plant once (in December 1983), during the Principle
Of Moments tour. He composed for and performed with the early
music ensemble Red Byrd. He appeared on and assisted with Ben E.
King's reunion tour and album. He professes his interests to be
in keyboards and dance music, rather than rock. Most recently,
he produced and played some bass on the newest Butthole Surfers
album, Independent Worm Saloon. His latest project is a
symphonic album, though he reported that he is working on a solo
album (on which guitarist Paul Leary of the Surfers would probably
appear). He also made a surprise appearance as Lenny Kravitz's
bassist at the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards. He is married and has
three children.

Plant released 6 solo albums -- Pictures At Eleven, The
Principle Of Moments, Shaken 'N' Stirred, Now & Zen, Manic
Nirvana, and Fate of Nations. He was the vocalist for the
Honeydrippers' only album, which also featured Jimmy Page on "Sea
Of Love" and "I Get A Thrill." He appeared on the Porky's and
White Nights soundtracks, and also on an album of Elvis covers.
He contributed vocals for the song "The Only One" on Page's
Outrider. And, of course, he did a Coke commercial structured
around the song "Tall Cool One." He had a relationship with
Canadian singer Alannah Myles. He is currently divorced, and has
2 children (Carmen and Logan) from a previous marriage, as well as
(according to VOX magazine) a child from another relationship.
His first son, Karac, is deceased, and his daughter Carmen is
married to his current bassist, Charlie Jones.

Page composed and recorded the soundtrack to the film Death Wish
2. He jammed extensively, with (among others) Jeff Beck, Yes,
Foreigner, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Poison, Eric Clapton, Ian Stewart,
Roy Harper, Alexis Korner, Robert Plant, The Beach Boys, Jaco
Pastorius, Solid Ground, Mason Ruffner, and even Harry Connick, Jr.
He appeared on albums by Willie and The Poor Boys, Stephen Stills,
and Box Of Frogs (an ex-Yardbirds reunion). He teamed up with Paul
Rodgers of Bad Company, Tony Franklin from Roy Harper's band (last
seen with Blue Murder) and Chris Slade of Manfred Mann (now with
AC/DC) to create The Firm, which released 2 albums - The Firm and
Mean Business. He participated in the British and American
versions of the ARMS tour (to benefit MS) with Eric Clapton, Jeff
Beck, Steve Winwood, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts, Kenny Jones, Simon
Phillips, and other British rock stars. He guested on two tracks
from Plant's Now & Zen album, "Heaven Knows" and "Tall Cool One."
He released a solo album entitled Outrider with Jason Bonham on
drums and featuring Plant's vocals on one track--"The Only One."
His most recent project was an album with David Coverdale (of Deep
Purple and Whitesnake) entitled Coverdale/Page. He is married
to a woman named Patricia and has two children--James (with his
current wife) and Scarlet (with a previous girlfriend).

Bonham, surprisingly enough, made it past the grave as the
sampling source for the drum track of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's
hit "Relax," and has been extensively sampled for rap beat
compilations. He can be heard (in smapled form) on Power Station
and early Beastie Boys albums, among others.

Peter Grant was last reported to be working on the much-lamented
Malcom McLaren biopic about Robert Plant (starring Jason Donovan),
and also working on a film about his own life (according to an
interview reprinted in ZOSO magazine). The two projects may be
related, and they may also be on indefinite hold.

31 - Is Led Zeppelin getting back together?

The reunion rumor season is upon us once again. Rumors abound
that Page and Plant are getting together for an Unplugged,
for a tour, for an album, and possibly for a three-way marriage
with Tawny Kitaen. As with all Zeppelin reunion rumors, the
trick is to believe only what you see--that is, if you actually
see what remains of Zeppelin performing somewhere, then you
can believe the rumor.

The current furor started with a report in the Boston Globe
(echoed in other markets) that Page and Plant were doing an
episode of MTV's Unplugged. MTV continues to deny knowledge
of any such thing. Corollary rumors include the addition of
the Bombay Symphony to the performance, the exclusion of Jones,
and the Zeppelin Unplugged being the final taping of the
Unplugged series. Diane Bettle/Lovett, the editor of
Nirvana, believes that this is pretty much a certainty, and
notes that some people have already been invited. The taping
would take place in February or March in the same studio that
Clapton recorded his Unplugged in, and would likely be
called Unleaded.

Rumors were sparked again by the Boston meetings of Page and
Plant during Plant's two-night Orpheum Theater stand on his
Fate Of Nations tour. The pair was sighted all over Boston
(including at the House Of Blues and Tower Records/Cambridge),
and Page attended (but did not play at) both Plant performances.
Members of Digital Graffiti even saw Mr. Page himself after one
of the concerts.

Now rumors of an album, or an album and a tour, are spreading.
With the apparent breakup of Coverdale/Page (no more tour dates
have been announced, stories abound that Coverdale is reforming
Whitesnake and that Pratt is going on tour with Pink Floyd this
spring/summer) and the gap in tour dates for Plant (from the end
of the South American/Mexican/(possibly Texan) dates to announced
summer dates in Europe) these rumors have gained credibility (at
least, as much as these rumors ever have).

Further information from Ms. Bettle/Lovett basically confirms the
rumor that Page and Plant are working together again, and that
Plant has cancelled any plans for a spring return to the US. In
addition, a conversation between Jason Bonham (on tour with Paul
Rodgers) and a member of Digital Graffiti also confirmed the
rumor of their writing project. Incidentally, Atlantic reports
that a Plant album of unknown content is due this fall.

Adam Curry, MTV VJ and online "representative" for the channel
(though not in an official sense) had this to say:

"Hold on to your bongs and blacklights kids...Led Zeppelin will
be regrouping in 1994. Yes, we all know Zep's late great drummer,
John Bonhan is jammin' in Rock N' Roll heaven, but his son,
Jason is juiced with the reunion idea. My overseas sources say
lead singer, Robert Plant has given the go ahead!"

And then there's this from Digital Graffiti reader Colin Irwin:

"Anyway, I was enjoying a pint or three in the Red Cow, the pub
closest to the Cambridge Corn Exchange when who should walk in
but Jason Bonham [...] then [I] sidled up to Jason, with the
intent of finding out if he was in on the rumoured Zep reunion.
The answer was no, he hadn't been invited.. ..yet. What he did
tell me was that Page & Plant are *definitely* working on new

So there it is. Believe it...or not. ;-)

This is, of course, not the first "reunion."

A brief history:

XYZ -- a project combining elements of Yes and Zeppelin. Chris
Squire reports that he has tapes of songs that he, Alan White,
Page, and possibly Jones (though no one has mentioned him) were
involved in. The project crashed for lack of a vocalist --
namely, Plant -- and because of thinly veiled threats from
various management interests. The name, in case someone hasn't
figured it out, stands for "eX-Yes-and-Zeppelin".

Live Aid -- On 13 July 1985, the 3 living members of Zeppelin,
along with Paul Martinez (from Plant's band) on bass, Tony
Thompson (of Chic) on drums, and Phil Collins (who had to fly
over after his performance at Wembley) on drums, appeared at the
Live Aid festival at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia. They performed
"Rock And Roll," "Whole Lotta Love," and "Stairway To Heaven."
Plant was hoarse from 4 consecutive nights of singing and a
morning rehearsal, Page's guitar was out of tune, Collins and
Thompson were lost much of the time, and Bill Graham, who was
promoting, was pointing at his watch all through "STH" because
Zeppelin was taking more than their allotted time. Ten days
later, Page joined Plant on his solo tour for a few encores.

Reunion #1 -- In January of 1986, Zeppelin and Tony Thompson met
in secret in a village hall near Peter Gabriel's Bath studios.
Plant handled bass chores while Jones played keyboards. They
worked through "..two or three things that were quite promising,
a sort of cross between David Byrne and Husker Du." (Plant) But
it was not to be--Plant was not used to having to deal with Page's
eccentricities (Page reportedly changed the batteries in his
wah-wah pedal after every other song), and Tony Thompson was
injured in a car accident. Plant walked out and the reunion

Hammersmith Odeon -- 17 April 1988, Page joins Plant's tour for a
blistering encore featuring "Trampled Underfoot," "Gambler's
Blues/I Can't Quit You Baby/Since I've Been Loving You," "Misty
Mountain Hop," and "Rock And Roll."

Atlantic 40th -- 14 May 1988 -- A 12-hour tribute concert for
Atlantic Records, which came to a climax with Zeppelin's
performance (Jason Bonham on drums). Jason played well, but the
night is generally considered a disaster. The rehearsal was
(reportedly) brilliant. The evening arrived with the band better-
rehearsed than they had been at Live Aid; but the concert ran late,
upsetting Page's always fragile nerves--which caused him to drink
a bit more than he should have. Not to be outdone, Plant had
suddenly decided that he didn't want to sing "Stairway." He refused
to change his mind until the band was literally standing onstage.
The sound feed for the TV broadcast completely lost the keyboards,
which made "Kashmir" sound rather thin. Plant was bumped by a fan
during the same song, forgot the lyrics to one verse and later on
forgot the words to "Stairway." Page's solos were somewhat of a
disaster, though he did redeem himself a bit at the end of his
"Stairway" solo. The set list was: "Kashmir," "Heartbreaker/Whole
Lotta Love" (the Knebworth '79 arrangement), "Misty Mountain Hop,"
and "Stairway To Heaven."

Carmen Plant's Birthday -- The band played at Carmen Plant's 21st
birthday Party, once again with Jason on drums. Set list was
"Trampled Underfoot," "Misty Mountain Hop," and "Rock And Roll."
November 1989.

Jason's Wedding -- The band also reformed for Jason Bonham's
wedding, playing "Bring It On Home, "Rock And Roll," "Sick
Again," "Custard Pie," and Jerry Lee Lewis' "It'll Be Me." Both
this and the previous performance were said to be outstanding.
28 April 1990.

Knebworth '90 -- Page joined Plant's band (despite rumours and
even the official set list announcing Led Zeppelin's presence,
Jones was nowhere to be found) for "Misty Mountain Hop," the
first-ever Page-led performance of "Wearing And Tearing," and
"Rock And Roll." Page had stood on the sidelines earlier as
Plant's band covered "Immigrant Song" and "Going To California."

Reunion #2 -- The following January, the members of Zeppelin met
with Peter Grant to discuss a reunion tour. Lighting and sound
companies were contacted, and stadiums were quietly reserved.
After badgering Plant in public and private about the reunion,
Page thought he had finally convinced him to go along with it.
Both Page and Jones had expressed varying degrees of enthusiasm
for the idea. But Plant, after agreeing to the tour and breaking
for lunch, came back one hour later and said no. This angered
Page immensely, and given Plant's rather critical attitude towards
Zeppelin in the press, he allowed his displeasure to be known:

"...Robert certainly wasn't doing anything...and there was a
great feeling in the camp that we would probably be getting back
together again in some shape or form -- some capacity -- whether
it be a tour or what. But, I mean, as you can tell at this point
it just didn't happen...[softly] it just didn't happen, so.... I
think it's pretty safe to assume that if it didn't happen then...
then...you know, it's...well, it's pretty dim any...any chance of
it happening in the future. Everyone...I mean, as far as Jonesy
and I were concerned, we were really keen to see it begin...get
something going. But, you know, Robert just wasn't...[softly]
wasn't interested. Well, at the time...I mean, I'll leave this
for everybody's speculation: that he thought it would harm his
solo career. That's...that's what he said, which is rather
peculiar, but...but that's his reason."

Relations between the two are sometimes amicable, sometimes dicey:

Plant: "...I do find Jimmy's constant sort of complaining about
the lack of Led Zeppelin in the major sort of festival auditoriums
in the country a bit boring."

Page: "Someone should just tell Robert to keep his mouth shut."

32 - What albums has Jimmy Page released?

This discography follows the format:

Title (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the
Song Title One, Song Title Two

A list of videos.

Any other relevant information.

This discography will cover major releases only--most guest
appearances will not be included. Also, only new singles and
older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more
complete discography, consult A Celebration by Dave Lewis.


(Note: a sessionography for Page would be an enormous undertaking,
thus it is not attempted here. However, there are a few sessions
worth mentioning, as they sometimes come up in discussions:

"Can't Explain"--The Who--Page on rhythm guitar.

"You Really Got Me" & "All Day & All Of The Night"--The Kinks--
Page on rhythm and possibly lead, though Dave Davies disputes

Other sessions are listed in the regular discography.)

Jimmy Page And Sonny Boy Williamson (1964) BYG

Jam session also available as Jimmy Page Special Early Works on

Anthology Of British Blues Vol. 1 & 2 (?) Immediate (various)
Choker, Snake Drive, West Coast Idea, Tribute To Elmore,
Freight Loader, Draggin' My Tail, etc.

This collection also appears as Best Of British Blues, Guitar
Boogie, White Boy Blues, and under of number of other titles.
Basically, these are "basement" tapes recorded at Immediate and
in Page's home studio, featuring Page, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger,
Ian Stewart, some of the Yardbirds, and other British rock
luminaries. The exact personnel list for each track is unknown,
however, as is exactly which tracks are actually from these

"She Just Satisfies" b/w "Keep Moving" (February 1965) Fontana

Page plays all instruments but drums, and sings on the first track.

James Patrick Page--Session Man Vol. 1 & 2 (?) Archive Productions

This two-volume LP and CD set features pre-Zeppelin studio work.

"Hi Ho Silver Lining" b/w "Beck's Bolero" (1966) Columbia (Jeff Beck)

The b-side is a Page composition featuring Beck, Page, Keith Moon,
John Paul Jones, and Nicky Hopkins. It appears on Beck's album
Truth as well.

Little Games (1967) Epic, re-released on EMI (The Yardbirds)
Little Games, Smile On Me, White Summer, Tinker Tailor Soldier
Sailor, Glimpses, Drinking Muddy Water, No Excess Baggage,
Stealing Stealing, Only The Black Rose, Little Soldier Boy
On UK reissue only--Think About It, Remember The Night

(Jimmy Page--guitars, Keith Relf--vocals and harmonica, Chris Dreja--
bass and rhythm guitar, Jim McCarty--drums and percussion)

Blow Up (March 1967) MGM (soundtrack)
Stroll On

The Yardbirds imitating the Who (Page on bass, Beck on guitar). The
song is "Train Kept A Rollin'," rewritten by the band to avoid
copyright problems.

Live Yardbirds With Jimmy Page (1971) CBS, re-released on Epic
(The Yardbirds)
Train Kept A Rollin', You're A Better Man Than I, I'm Confused,
My Baby, Over Under Sideways Down, Drinking Muddy Water, Shapes
Of Things, White Summer, I'm A Man

Page used legal pressure to remove this album from stores.

Little Games Sessions & More (1992) EMI (The Yardbirds)
Little Games, Smile On Me, White Summer, Tinker Tailor
Soldier Sailor, Glimpses, Drinking Muddy Water, No Excess
Baggage, Stealing Stealing, Only The Black Rose, Little
Soldier Boy, Puzzles, I Remember The Night, Ha Ha Said The
Clown, Ten Little Indians, Goodnight Sweet Josephine, Think
About It, Little Games, You Stole My Love, White Summer,
Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor, LSD, Drinking Muddy Water, De
Lane Lea Lee, Glimpses, Never Mind, Ten Little Indians,
Goodnight, Sweet Josephine, Henry's Coming Home, Love Mum
And Dad, Together Now, Shining Where The Sun Has Been,
"Great Shakes" commercial spot

(Jimmy Page--guitars, Keith Relf--vocals and harmonica, Chris
Dreja--bass and rhythm guitar, Jim McCarty--drums and percussion)

This 2-CD set is the third in a series of Yardbirds collections
that completely document the band's studio work, including
unreleased and alternate takes.

Jimmy's Back Pages...The Early Years (1992) Sony
Les Fleurs De Lys--Circles, So Come On, Moondreams; The Blue
Rondos--Baby I Go For You, Little Baby; The First Gear--
Gotta Make Their Future Bright, The "In" Crowd, A Certain
Girl, Leave My Kitten Alone; Gregory Phillips--Please Believe
Me, Angie; The Primitives--How Do You Feel, You Said; The
Lancastrians--She Was Tall, We'll Sing In The Sunshine;
Wayne Gibson & The Dynamic Sounds--See You Later Alligator,
Kelly; The Authentics--Without You, Climing Through; Nico--
I'm Not Sayin', The Last Mile; Donovan--Sunshine Superman

Jimmy's early session work.

Metamorphosis (1975) Decca (The Rolling Stones)

Pre-1975 outtakes with Page's "assistance" on unspecified tracks.


With A Little Help From My Friends (1968) Regal Zonophone (Joe
With A Little Help From My Friends, Bye Bye Blackbird,

No Introduction Necessary (1968) Spark/Thunderbolt (various)

Love Chronicles (January 1969) CBS (Al Stewart)

Lord Sutch And Heavy Friends (June 1970) Atlantic (Lord Sutch)
Wailing Sounds, 'Cause I Love You, Flashing Lights, Thumping
Beat, Union Jack Car, Baby Come Back

Page, Bonham, Jeff Beck, Noel Redding, Nicky Hopkins, and others
recorded "new" versions of rock standards, which Sutch added "new"
lyrics to later. Also available as Smoke & Fire on Thunderbolt.

Stormcock (June 1971) Harvest (Roy Harper)
Same Old Rock

Lifemask (February 1973) Harvest (Roy Harper)
The Lord's Prayer

Flashes From The Archives Of Oblivion (November 1974) Harvest
(Roy Harper)

Page with Harper's band in a live show, Plant is hosting.


Death Wish 2 (February 1982) Swan Song (soundtrack)
Who's To Blame, The Chase, City Sirens, Jam Sandwich, Carole's
Theme, The Release, Hotel Rats & Photostats, A Shadow In The
City, Jill's Theme, Prelude, Big Band/Sax & Violence,
Hypnotising Ways (Oh Mamma)

(Jimmy Page--guitars and sythesizer guitars, Chris Farlowe--vocals,
Gordon Edwards--piano and vocals, Dave Paton--bass, Dave Mattacks--
drums, Dave Lawson--arrangements)

Right By You (1984) Atlantic (Stephen Stills)
50/50, Right By You

The Honeydrippers, Vol. 1 (November 1984) Atlantic (The
Sea Of Love, I Get A Thrill

The Firm (February 1985) Atlantic (The Firm)
Closer, Make Or Break, Someone To Love, Together, Radioactive,
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling, Money Can't Buy, Satisfaction
Guaranteed, Midnight Moonlight

(Jimmy Page--guitars, Paul Rodgers--guitar and vocals, Tony Franklin--
bass, Chris Slade--drums)

There were videos released for "Radioactive" and "Satisfaction

Whatever Happened To Jugula? (March 1985) Beggars Banquet (Roy
Harper & Jimmy Page)
Nineteen Forty-Eightish, Bad Speech, Hope, Hangman, Elizabeth,
Frozen Moment, Twentieth Century Man, Advertisement (Another
Intentional Irrelevant Suicide)

(Roy Harper--guitars, vocals, percussion, Jimmy Page--guitars,
Tony Franklin--bass, Nik Green--keyboards, Ronnie Brambles--drums,
Steve Broughton--drums, Preston Heyman--drums, Nick Harper--

Scream For Help (March 1985) Atlantic (soundtrack)
Spaghetti Junction, Crackback

Guitar on both tracks.

Willie And The Poorboys (1985) Decca (Willie And The Poorboys)
These Arms Of Mine, Slippin' And Slidin'

A video for "These Arms Of Mine" was released.

Mean Business (April 1986) Atlantic (The Firm)
Fortune Hunter, Cadillac, All The King's Horses, Live In
Peace, Tear Down The Walls, Dreaming, Free To Live, Spirit
Of Love

(Jimmy Page--guitars, Paul Rodgers--guitar and vocals, Tony
Franklin--bass, Chris Slade--drums)

There were videos released for "Tear Down The Walls," "All The
King's Horses," and "Live In Peace."

Strange Land (1986) Epic (Box Of Frogs)

This is the ex-Yardbirds' project.

Dirty Work (1986) Rolling Stones Records/CBS (The Rolling Stones)
One Hit To The Body

In Between Every Line (1986) Harvest (Roy Harper)
Short and Sweet, Referendum, Highway Blues

Live from 1984.

Lucifer Rising (1987) Boleskine House Records (soundtrack)

This features 23 minutes of Page's headache-inducing "music" for
the Kenneth Anger film of the same name. There are innumerable
bootlegs of this. Note: the catalog number of the "original"
is BHR 666.

Now and Zen (February 1988) Es Paranza (Robert Plant)
Heaven Knows, Tall Cool One

Guitar solos on both tracks.

Outrider (June 1988) Geffen
Wasting My Time[%], Wanna Make Love, Writes Of Winter, The
Only One[+@], Liquid Mercury[@$], Hummingbird[*], Emerald
Eyes[@$], Prison Blues[*@], Blues Anthem[*@]

(Jimmy Page--acoustic, electric, and synthesizer guitars, John
Miles--vocals, [*]Chris Farlowe--vocals, [+]Robert Plant--vocals,
Durban Laverde--bass, [@]Felix Krish--bass, [%]Tony Franklin--
bass, Jason Bonham--drums, [$]Barrymore Barlow--drums)

There was a video released for "Wasting My Time."

Coverdale/Page (16 March 1993) Geffen (Coverdale/Page)
Shake My Tree, Waiting On You, Take Me For A Little While,
Pride And Joy, Over Now, Feeling Hot, Easy Does It, Take
A Look At Yourself, Don't Leave Me This Way, Absolution
Blues, Whisper A Prayer For The Dying

(Jimmy Page--acoustic and electric 6 & 12-string guitars, dulcimer,
harmonica & other stringed instruments, David Coverdale--vocals
and acoustic guitar, Ricky Phillips & Jorge Casas--bass, Denny
Carmassi--drums, John Harris--harmonica, Lester Mendez--keyboards)

Videos for "Pride & Joy" and "Take Me For A Little While" have been
released. In the "Pride & Joy" video, Page is playing (among a range
of acoustic and electric guitars--including the doubleneck) a

An upcoming EP release with songs not on the album was mentioned
by both Page and Coverdale. 5 or 6 songs (including one entitled
"Saccharine") are left, according to a Guitar World interview.

The cover (done by Hugh Syme, who does Rush's covers (among others'))
features a merge sign in a variety of locations. Coverdale: "This
is the traffic sign that means two roads joining to one road. We
were trying to express unification or joining together."

"Take Me For A Little While" b/w "Easy Does It" 7" single (1993)

"Take Me For A Little While" cassette single (November 1993) Geffen
Take Me For A Little While, Easy Does It

"Take Me For A Little While" CD single (September 1993) EMI/Geffen
Take Me For A Little While (album version), Take Me For A
Little While (acoustic version), Take Me For A Little While
(edit), Shake My Tree (guitar crunch mix)

"Take A Look At Yourself" Limited Edition CD single (November 1993)
Take A Look At Yourself (album version), Take A Look At
Yourself (acoustic version), Take A Look At Yourself (with
girls), Waiting On You

33 - Coverdale/Page tour dates.

There are none. They have finished their tour of Japan, and by
all accounts have parted ways. The US tour dates that were
announced and then cancelled in the fall of 1993 have not been

34 - What albums has Robert Plant released?

This discography follows the format:

Title (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the
Song Title One, Song Title Two...

A list of videos.

Any other relevant information.

This discography will cover major releases only--most guest
appearances will not be included. Also, only new singles and
older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more
complete discography, consult A Celebration by Dave Lewis.


"You Better Run" b/w "Everybody's Gonna Say" (October 1966)
CBS/Columbia 45 with the band Listen

"Our Song" b/w "Laughing, Crying, Laughing" (March 1967) CBS 45

"Long Time Coming" b/w "I've Got A Secret" (September 1967) CBS 45

In The Forest (1989) Forest Music compilation with the Band Of
Joy on the track "Adriatic Sea View"


The Concerts For Kampuchea (February 1981) (various artists)
Rockestra Theme, Let It Be, Lucille (all live, with Jones and
Bonham), Little Sister (live with Rockpile)

A video for "Little Sister" was released.


Pictures At Eleven (June 1982) Swan Song
Burning Down One Side, Moonlight In Samosa, Pledge Pin, Slow
Dancer[*], Worse Than Detroit, Fat Lip, Like I've Never Been
Gone[*], Mystery Title

(Robbie Blunt--guitars, Paul Martinez--bass, Jezz Woodroffe--keys &
synths, Phil Collins & [*]Cozy Powell--drums, Raphael Ravenscroft--

A video for "Burning Down One Side" was released.

The Principle Of Moments (June 1983) Es Paranza
Other Arms, In The Mood, Messin' With The Mekon, Wreckless
Love, Thru With The Two Step, Horizontal Departure, Stranger
Here...Than Over There, Big Log

(Robbie Blunt--guitars, Paul Martinez--bass, Jezz Woodroffe--
keyboards, Phil Collins & Barriemore Barlow--drums, John David
& Ray Martinez--backing vocals)

Videos for "In The Mood" and "Big Log" were released. The title
refers to physics (as in "moments of inertia.")

The Honeydrippers Volume One (October 1984) Es Paranza (The
I Get A Thrill, Sea Of Love, I Got A Woman, Young Boy Blues,
Rockin' At Midnight

Videos were released for "Sea Of Love" and "Rockin' At Midnight."

Jimmy Page plays guitar on "Sea Of Love" and "I Get A Thrill."
Jeff Beck plays guitar on "Rockin' At Midnight."

Shaken N' Stirred (May 1985) Es Paranza
Hip To Hoo, Kallalou Kallalou, Too Loud, Trouble Your Money,
Pink And Black, Little By Little, Doo Doo A Do Do, Easily
Lead, Sixes And Sevens

(Robbie Blunt--guitars and synthesized guitars, Paul Martinez--
bass & guitar, Jezz Woodroffe--keyboards, Ritchie Hayward--drums,
Toni Halliday--backing vocals)

Videos were relased for "Little By Little" and "Pink And Black."

Little By Little Collectors' Edition (1985) Es Paranza
Little By Little (remix), Easily Lead (live), Rockin' At
Midnight (live), Sixes And Sevens

Porky's Revenge (1985) CBS (soundtrack)
Philadelphia Baby (under the name Crawling King Snakes)

White Nights (1985) Atlantic (soundtrack)
Far Post

Now And Zen (March 1988) Es Paranza
Heaven Knows[*], Dance On My Own, Tall Cool One[*], The Way
I Feel, Helen Of Troy, Billy's Revenge, Ship Of Fools, Why,
White Clean And Neat, Walking Towards Paradise (CD only)

(Doug Boyle--guitars, Phil Scragg--bass, Phil Johnstone--keyboards
& guitar, Chris Blackwell--drums & percussion, Toni Halliday &
Marie Pierre & Kristy MacColl--backing vocals, Jimmy Page[*]--
guitar solos, Jerry Wayne--voiceover on "White, Clean, And Neat")

Videos for "Heaven Knows," "Ship Of Fools," and "Tall Cool One"
were released.

"Ship Of Fools" CD single (September 1988) Es Paranza
Ship Of Fools, Helen Of Troy (live), Dimples (live)

Outrider (June 1988) Geffen (Jimmy Page)
The Only One

Manic Nirvana (March 1990) Es Paranza
Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes On You), Big Love, SSS&Q, I
Cried, She Said, Nirvana, Tie Die On The Highway, Your Ma Said
You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night, Anniversary, Liar's Dance,
Watching You

(Doug Boyle--guitars, Charlie Jones--bass, Phil Johnstone--keyboards
& guitars, Chris Blackwell--drums & guitars, Siddi Makain Mushkin &
Laila Cohen & Caroline Harding & Mickey Groome & Rob Stride--backing

Videos for "Hurting Kind" and "Nirvana" were released. The "noise"
on "Your Ma..." is from the sampled drum track of the original song,
by Schlaks & Glaser.

Manic Nirvana Limited Edition (1990) Es Paranza
A red digipak (featuring Plant's wolf logo on the cover), a
specially-printed CD (with the red wolf logo again), pictures
of the band and Plant in the liner notes, and packaged with a
red tapestry with the wolf logo and "Robert Plant" in black

"Hurting Kind" CD single (March 1990) Es Paranza
Hurting Kind, I Cried, Oompah (Watery Bint)

"Hurting Kind" CD single (March 1990) Es Paranza
Hurting Kind, Don't Look Back, Oompah (Watery Bint), One Love

"Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night" CD single (June
1990) Es Paranza
Your Ma Said...(remix), Your Ma Said...(album version), She
Said, One Love

The Last Temptation Of Elvis (1990) NME (various artists)
Let's Have A Party

Knebworth: The Album (July 1990) Polygram (various artists)
Hurting Kind, Liar's Dance, Tall Cool One, Wearing And Tearing
(with Jimmy Page)

Fate Of Nations (June 1993) Es Paranza
Calling To You, Down To The Sea, Come Into My Life, I Believe,
29 Palms, Memory Song (Hello Hello), If I Were A Carpenter,
Promised Land, The Greatest Gift, Great Spirit, Network News

(Robert Plant--vocals, guitar, harmonica, Doug Boyle--guitar,
Francis Dunnery--guitar, Phil Johnstone--guitar, harmonium, piano,
electric piano, organ, vocals, "electric orchestra," Kevin Scott
MacMichael--guitar, vocals, Richard Thompson--guitar, Oliver J.
Woods--guitar, Charlie Jones--bass, Chris Blackwell--drums, Chris
Hughes--drums, Michael Lee--drums, Pete Thompson--drums, Martin
Allcock--mandolin, Phillip Andrews--keyboards, Nigel Eaton--hurdy-
gurdy, Nigel Kennedy--violin, Navazish Ali Khan--violin, Gurdev
Singh--dilruba, sarod, Sursie Singh--sarangi, Rainer Ptacek--steel
guitar, Maire Brennan--vocals, John Flynn--vocals, Steve French--
vocals, Julian Taylor--vocals, Lynton Naiff--string arrangements)

Videos for "Calling To You," "29 Palms," and "I Believe" have been

The European version of the album contains a track not on the US
version, entitled "Colours Of A Shade". "If I Were A Carpenter"
is a Tim Hardin song.

"29 Palms" cassingle (June 1993) Es Paranza
29 Palms, Whole Lotta Love

"29 Palms" CD single (June 1993) Es Paranza (paper-cover)
29 Palms, Whole Lotta Love

"29 Palms" CD single (June 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza (jewel box)
29 Palms, 21 Years, Dark Moon

"29 Palms" CD single Limited Edition (June 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza
29 Palms, 21 Years, Dark Moon, Whole Lotta Love

"Calling To You" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza
(jewel box)
Calling To You, Naked If I Want To, 8'05

"Calling To You" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza
5 mixes of "Calling To You"--Song To Kalsoum, Shookran Sah-
Abi, Always My Heart, Artist's Valley, Per La Gente

"Calling To You" 12" single (September 1993) Es Paranza
Contents unknown

"I Believe" cassingle (November 1993) Es Paranza
I Believe, Dark Moon

"I Believe" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza
I Believe, Great Spirit (acoustic), Hey Jayne

This CD single is the companion to the limited edition "29 Palms"
CD single.

"If I Were A Carpenter" CD single #1 (December 1993) Fontana/Es
If I Were A Carpenter, Ship Of Fools (live), Tall Cool One

The live tracks are from Montreaux.

"If I Were A Carpenter" CD single #2 (December 1993) Fontana/Es
If I Were A Carpenter, I Believe (live), Going To California

The live tracks are from Montreaux.

35 - Robert Plant tour dates.

The touring band is:

Robert Plant--vocals, harmonica, very occasional guitar, adoring
Phil Johnstone--guitar, keyboards, underage groupies
Francis Dunnery--guitar, ugly white silk suit, painful back-bends
Innes Sibun--guitar, restraint and taste
Charlie Jones--bass, Carmen Plant
Michael Lee--drums, no shirt

The set changes nightly, and features songs from Zeppelin, Plant's
solo efforts, and a few surprises. Since he has completed all
scheduled dates, his scheduled return to the US has been put on
hold (ostensibly for the reunion/Unplugged with Page), and the
next scheduled dates are for summer festivals in Europe, the
dates for the completed tours have been deleted.

Plant is also working on a documentary in which he will travel to
north Africa and the Misty Mountains of Wales, among other

36 - What albums has John Paul Jones released?

This discography follows the format:

Title (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the
Song Title One, Song Title Two...

A list of videos.

Any other relevant information.

This discography will cover major releases only--most guest
appearances will not be included. Also, only new singles and
older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more
complete discography, consult A Celebration by Dave Lewis.


"Baja" b/w "A Foggy Day In Vietnam" (April 1964) Pye/Parkway

The second track is an Andrew Loog Oldham composition that doesn't
feature Jones at all, but may feature some of the Rolling Stones.

Little Games (1967) Epic/MFP (The Yardbirds)
Jones arranging and contributing session bass work.


No Introduction Necessary (1968) Spark/Thunderbolt (various
Unspecified tracks, with Jimmy Page.

Truth (1968) Columbia (Jeff Beck)
Old Man River (organ)

Dusty...Definitely (1968) Fontana (Dusty Springfield)

Comin' Atcha' (December 1973) RCA (Madeline Bell)
JPJ on bass and keys; also produced and recorded at his home

H.Q. (June 1975) Harvest (Roy Harper)
The Game

Back To The Egg (May 1979) EMI/MPL (Paul McCartney & Wings)
Rockestra Theme, So Glad To See You Here (both with Bonham)

The Concerts For Kampuchea (February 1981) (various artists)
Rockestra Theme, Let It Be, Lucille (all live, with Plant and


Give My Regards To Broadstreet (October 1984) EMI/MPL (soundtrack)
Ballroom Dancing

Scream For Help (March 1985) Atlantic (soundtrack)
Spaghetti Junction[*], Bad Child, Silver Train[@], Crackback[*],
Chilli Sauce, Take It Or Leave It[$], Christie[@], When You
Fall In Love[#], Here I Am[$]

(John Paul Jones--vocals, guitars, bass, drums, keyboards, Colin
Green--guitars, Graham Ward--drums, [$]Madeline Bell--vocals,
[#]John Renbourn--guitars, [@]Jon Anderson--vocals, [*]Jimmy

Save The Last Dance For Me (March 1988) EMI/Manhattan (Ben E. King)
Because Of Last Night, Whatever This Is (It Ain't True Love),
Two Loves

Children (March 1988) Mercury (The Mission)
Keys and production.

Music From Films (1988) Opal Land (various artists)
Three Minute Warning

Us (1992) Geffen (Peter Gabriel)
Unspecified tracks, on bass, keys, and percussion.

Independent Worm Saloon (1993) Capitol (Butthole Surfers)
Production and some bass.

37 - Who were the other artists on the Swan Song label?

Swan Song artists included Bad Company, Pretty Things, Maggie
Bell, Detective, Dave Edmunds, Midnight Flyer, Wildlife, Robert
Plant, and Jimmy Page. Signed but unreleased artists included
Mirabai and Metropolis. Bobby Parker was never signed, though
considered. Richie Sambora claims he was signed to Swan Song for
a time, as do members of the Kentucky Headhunters.

38 - What is The Song Retains The Name?

This is a collection of Zeppelin covers by rock/metal bands. It
may be available from:

Mad Rover Records
Dept. CZ,
Box 22243
Sacremento, CA 95822

Track listing:

Black Dog The Royal Mixxers with KGIG and Konan
Living Loving Maid Rich Hardesty & The Del Reys
(She's Just A Woman)
Down By The Seaside Robert Kuhlmann & Flying Boats
Good Times, Bad Times Dalai Lamas
Four Sticks Earwigs
Immigrant Song Headface
In The Evening Twice Shy
No Quarter I Love Ethyl
What Is And What Helen Keller Plaid
Should Never Be
Houses Of The Holy Fool Killers
Rock And Roll Tent Poles

39 - Who is Dread Zeppelin and how does the band feel about them?

Dread Zeppelin are a group of musicians playing rock/reggae, often
covering Zeppelin and/or Elvis songs. Their albums (there are
three) have contained progressively less Zeppelin content. They
were, at the outset, extremely satirical in nature. Page hates
them. Plant loves them. Jones' opinion has not been noted but is
almost assuredly the same as Plant's.

40 - Did Jimmy Page invent bowing?

No. It was suggested to him by a session violinist (whose father
was the actor David McCallum), but it had been done before. His
bow work can be found on the Yardbirds track "Glimpses," and the
Zeppelin songs "How Many More Times," "Dazed & Confused," and "In
The Evening."

41 - What's this "theremin" thing that Jimmy Page uses?

This is the first device to use alternative means of interaction
to produce...er...music (sort of). It was invented by Leo
Theremin, a Russian living in England, in the 1930's, and was
made popular in the 1960's by Sun Ra. The instrument produces
sine-wave sounds by the beat frequencies between a reference RF
oscillator and an oscillator tuned by the change in capacitance
between a antenna and the performer's hands, arms or body caused
by movement. The closer one comes to the antenna, the higher the
capacitance and higher the pitch. Later versions of the
instrument have volume control from a second antenna. Page uses
the theremin live during "Whole Lotta Love" and "No Quarter," and
occasionally elsewhere. It was also prominent in the studio
version of "WLL".

The theremin is used at the beginning of Beach Boys' song "Good
Vibrations". It is considered by many to be the first synthesizer.

42 - Is Jimmy Page a Satanist?

Jimmy Page is a collector of occult books and paraphenalia. He
is interested in religion and spirituality to the extent that he
considered "...getting a degree in theology." He was a devotee of
Aleister Crowley, a famous English occultist (and, perhaps,
Satanist) to the point of buying Crowley's old residence. He often
quoted Crowley, most notably on the runoff matrix of III. So is
he a Satanist? He says no, the band says no. There is no profit
in further speculation.

Rumours persist that the band "sold their souls" to Satan in
exchange for power, fame, wealth, etc., and that Jones was the only
one to refuse. The various disasters which have befallen the band
are often used to support this theory. However, there is absolutely
no evidence for this, the band denies it, and in the words of
Zeppelin biographer Charles Cross:

"Rereading these comments, while lying in a room that Jimmy Page,
the person -- the human being -- once occupied, I can't believe
the heartlessness, the meanness, the utter inhumanity of those
remarks. From mud sharks to pacts with Satan, the public seems
to suspend normal human empathy when talking about Led Zeppelin,
accepting preposterous malice of the sort that would never be
accepted if it were directed toward anyone outside of rock 'n'
roll. Have you heard anyone describe a successful business
executive as having sold his soul to Satan? Wouldn't we laugh
this comment off instantly if applied to anyone else, anyone
working in any other art form? Can one really believe that a
pact with Satan is possible, and if so isn't that the big story

43 - Are there backwards messages in "Stairway To Heaven"?

You're far from the first to ask. This rumor has persisted ever
since a California committee of parents and religious leaders set
out to prove that rock music was leading our children down the
path to the devil. For reasons still unknown to rational minds,
they decided to play some albums backwards, and professed to hear
all sorts of messages in songs like Queen's "Another One Bites The
Dust," anything and everything by Styx and ELO, Rush's "Anthem,"
the Stones' "19th Nervous Breakdown," Skynyrd's "Freebird," The
Eagles' "Hotel California," and most notably the (at that point)
most-requested rock song of all time, Led Zeppelin's "Stairway To

A definition is useful here -- "backmasking" is the process of
either: 1) recording a backwards message on a track meant to be
played forwards, or 2) the "hiding" of messages within forward
phrases so that, when played backwards, another phrase is revealed.

So does backmasking exist? Andy Johns, the producer of IV,
says that not only is "backmasking" a myth, but that there was no
such nonsense while he was present. Certainly, since the advent
of the "backmasking" scandal, groups such as ELO and Pink Floyd
have used the technique to poke fun at people who would actually
play records backwards. Most of the bands named in such
accusations tend to ignore the outcry, for as Jones commented in
Rolling Stone, there's absolutely no arguing someone out of
something they really want to believe. But the idea of
backmasking is uniformly considered ludicrous by musicians and
producers alike, and they're the ones that would be responsible
for the process.

Despite the denials of the people involved, let's assume that
these messages do exist. Are they effective? If they were
subliminal messages played forward, then scientists agree that
the brain could and would process the information. But
scientists are also convinced that the brain cannot decipher
backwards information unless it is specifically engaged for that
purpose. Therefore, even if backmasking did exist, it would be
useless. Plant: "If it worked, every record would have the
backward message 'BUY THIS RECORD' in it!" So much for Satanic

And specifically, as regards "Stairway To Heaven" -- there are
many messages that various groups have claimed to hear while
playing the song backwards, but the most uniformly cited is the
phrase "Here's to my sweet Satan." Not all listeners that hear
backward phrases are in agreement here, however, and not even
close to all who hear the song backwards hear any message at all.
Many of those who do hear "something" dismiss it as a mere
phonetic coincidence. And few of those who do hear the actual
message were unaware of the accusations against Zeppelin and
"Stairway To Heaven" before they listened to the song. Therefore,
overwhelming evidence supports the conclusion that such messages
do not exist, and if they did they would be useless, and even if
they weren't they are almost assuredly accidents aided by the
power of suggestion. But still, this rumor will not die.

Often, a listener will comment, "I heard the message, and it's
really there, but I think it's just an accident." This is faulty
reasoning. If the message is a phonetic accident, then the message
is not really "there"--instead, a series of sounds that are similar
to the phrase "here's to my sweet Satan" are all that are embedded in
the lyrics. If the message is really there, then it cannot be an
accident, for a phonetic reversal of the lyrics ("There's still time
to change the road you're on") does not produce the correct vowel and
consonant sounds (even given Plant's pronunciation) for the phrase
in question. So unless one believes that the message is there on
purpose (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary), one
must conclude that the message is not "there"--purposefully or

Perhaps it is relevant to note that the same committee that found
"STH" to be Satanic in nature also claimed that the theme song
from the "Mr. Ed" TV show is full of Satanic messages when played

(Sincere thanks to the MIT Psych. Dept., the MIT Brain & Cog. Sci.
Dept., and the Boston Globe for assistance.)

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